I live in America, I'm 17, and my free time is somewhat irratic. There are no places locally that harbor groups of people that play Go, nor do any of my friends or family play, so I'm basically limited to the internet or whatever I can order at a bookstore (Or online, or however) to learn about Go.
I love Go, but I am not very good at playing it. Are there any books or tutorials out there that you can suggest that can suit my needs? Much of the stuff I've found is far above my head, or it's bare-bones basics about how to play, not too much in-between.
And also (Although it's somewhat implied...), how can I become stronger in Go in these circumstances?
I can probubly devote about 1 hour a day to Go and get away with it (More time one the weekends, though).
What should I do?
{Posted by LittleFish}
Question... (Regarding How to Advance in Go)
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Alex
I'm not very good at go either, I just started playing. But I've got some links I read often to get use to the game. I have no one to play with around here except my father but he's weaker than me ^_^ here are some cool links I've found:
http://senseis.xmp.net/
http://www.usgo.org/usa/waytogo/index.asp
http://www.igoweb.org/~pahle/go-faq/index.html
http://gobase.org/studying/rules/
http://www.britgo.org/learners/index.html
http://gobase.org/rules/
http://www.joot.com/go/
they are more than that but, just check on the american, canadian or british go association web sites to find some other cool links ^_^
{Posted by Alex}
http://senseis.xmp.net/
http://www.usgo.org/usa/waytogo/index.asp
http://www.igoweb.org/~pahle/go-faq/index.html
http://gobase.org/studying/rules/
http://www.britgo.org/learners/index.html
http://gobase.org/rules/
http://www.joot.com/go/
they are more than that but, just check on the american, canadian or british go association web sites to find some other cool links ^_^
{Posted by Alex}
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Ossalisc
Not an answer... but another question,
Is there a specific rule set (or set of rule sets) that is better to use while studying Go tactics and all of that...????
[I do ask, but I think the Japanese rule set would triumph through default because all the exercises and books use the japanese rule set... but maybe if this was not the case? Which?]
-Jon
{Posted by Ossalisc}
Is there a specific rule set (or set of rule sets) that is better to use while studying Go tactics and all of that...????
[I do ask, but I think the Japanese rule set would triumph through default because all the exercises and books use the japanese rule set... but maybe if this was not the case? Which?]
-Jon
{Posted by Ossalisc}
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Skullflame
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Nai
Hey : LittleFish, Where do live?
You and I are in exactly same position. I'm in LA area. If you live near by, may be we can get together.... 
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Who, What, When, Where, But How?...
{Posted by Nai}
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Who, What, When, Where, But How?...
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crapougne
How to progress ? ...
The best way to make progress is to play stronger opponents ... and learn from your game. For that you can have your game commented in the Go Teaching Ladder, even though it is somewhat contested here in France, cuz some people say the level of comments is not good enough.
Some recommended readings : attack and defense, and Tesuji. For further information about sente/gote, influence / territory, and about good shape, just ask around ; p
Bon courage : p
{Posted by crapougne}
Some recommended readings : attack and defense, and Tesuji. For further information about sente/gote, influence / territory, and about good shape, just ask around ; p
Bon courage : p
{Posted by crapougne}
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AngelMarie
[quote]
I forced my friends to play. Okok, I just made them read Hikaru No Go, get them hooked, and play them. Same thing
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^_^ I'm trying the same approach with my younger brother but... he seems rather reluctant to watch the anime with me. (But when it comes to things like this, I have an incredible amount of patience... whereas eventually he'll get so sick of me asking him, it's probably only a matter of time... Now if only he weren't so stubborn.) But I see no other way to get an opponent I can play any time. lol ^^;
Of course on the downside, this won't help me improve much. He'll be just as much at a loss for advanced instruction as I will be/am.
One odd thing I have found that has helped me, though, is to play against myself frequently. Not a computer, but to actually play myself. If I play slowly, and really study the board and examine the problems in front of me, I can come to understand my own weaknesses better and better, and learn by trial and error to correct them. But it doesn't work nearly as well if I just play at normal speed, and not think about it. For instance, if I play a move, and then the next move captures a lot of stones, I will stop and consider how those stones got "set up" like that, whether there was any defensive move that might have saved them, or... whether some configuration of stones is just "impossible to beat" in practical terms. By undoing moves and replaying them from different angles, I can study what my plays should have been, and help to minimize my weaknesses somewhat.
The only problem is, I can only play as well as I know how. In addition, I, being myself,will always have "pet plays" that I constantly repeat because it's the best way I know to play for now. Which is why I really, really need to get my guts in a pile and play against other people, rather than just against myself and my computer. I'm improving by doing those things, but there is surely a limit to what improvement I can achieve that way, without playing other people and learning to adapt to moves I hadn't considered, or configurations wasn't consciously aware of. Without outside play, I can only "level up" so much.
- Gozuki no Angel
{Posted by AngelMarie}
I forced my friends to play. Okok, I just made them read Hikaru No Go, get them hooked, and play them. Same thing
[/quote]
^_^ I'm trying the same approach with my younger brother but... he seems rather reluctant to watch the anime with me. (But when it comes to things like this, I have an incredible amount of patience... whereas eventually he'll get so sick of me asking him, it's probably only a matter of time... Now if only he weren't so stubborn.) But I see no other way to get an opponent I can play any time. lol ^^;
Of course on the downside, this won't help me improve much. He'll be just as much at a loss for advanced instruction as I will be/am.
One odd thing I have found that has helped me, though, is to play against myself frequently. Not a computer, but to actually play myself. If I play slowly, and really study the board and examine the problems in front of me, I can come to understand my own weaknesses better and better, and learn by trial and error to correct them. But it doesn't work nearly as well if I just play at normal speed, and not think about it. For instance, if I play a move, and then the next move captures a lot of stones, I will stop and consider how those stones got "set up" like that, whether there was any defensive move that might have saved them, or... whether some configuration of stones is just "impossible to beat" in practical terms. By undoing moves and replaying them from different angles, I can study what my plays should have been, and help to minimize my weaknesses somewhat.
The only problem is, I can only play as well as I know how. In addition, I, being myself,will always have "pet plays" that I constantly repeat because it's the best way I know to play for now. Which is why I really, really need to get my guts in a pile and play against other people, rather than just against myself and my computer. I'm improving by doing those things, but there is surely a limit to what improvement I can achieve that way, without playing other people and learning to adapt to moves I hadn't considered, or configurations wasn't consciously aware of. Without outside play, I can only "level up" so much.
- Gozuki no Angel
{Posted by AngelMarie}
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LCZLAPINSKI
1. Study problems.
2. Play stronger players.
3. Buy the strongest Go software program you can afford. I have Go++ version 5. Have it play different types of positions to see how it plays. Play against the Go software. Try to recognize good shape and shapes that get you in trouble.
4. Play on KGS or othe internet that lets you review the game. Then go through some of the moves with the Go software to see how it would respond for several moves.
5. Try to figure out what you need to do. Then try to figure out what are the best ways to do it.
{Posted by LCZLAPINSKI}
2. Play stronger players.
3. Buy the strongest Go software program you can afford. I have Go++ version 5. Have it play different types of positions to see how it plays. Play against the Go software. Try to recognize good shape and shapes that get you in trouble.
4. Play on KGS or othe internet that lets you review the game. Then go through some of the moves with the Go software to see how it would respond for several moves.
5. Try to figure out what you need to do. Then try to figure out what are the best ways to do it.
{Posted by LCZLAPINSKI}
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Boromis
need guidince
I just started playing go 3 weeks ago and i am hooked. But i am haiving troble finding info on the game. All the book stores that are with in a houre dive dont carry any thing on the game go. And i was wondering if you knew any websites that might help me out with the understanding also do any of you guys have any tipes on how i might be able to improve my game at best i can put in between 30min to 1 hour a day twards go.
Thanks
{Posted by Boromis}
Thanks
{Posted by Boromis}
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koala
After playing for a few months I got "The Second Book of Go" which gave my playing more direction. It covers all aspects, and provides a basic understanding of the game. You can get if off www.amazon.com for a fairly decent price.
After that I would recommend getting more specialized books e.g. "Get strong at the Opening." At this point I joined the British Go Association as this allowed me to get the books a lot cheaper than on Amazon...maybe the AGA will have a similar deal?
{Posted by koala}
After that I would recommend getting more specialized books e.g. "Get strong at the Opening." At this point I joined the British Go Association as this allowed me to get the books a lot cheaper than on Amazon...maybe the AGA will have a similar deal?
{Posted by koala}