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Following the joseki, White should play O7 first, making black play P8, before playing N6. What happens if White immediately plays N6? Reworked with variations from FieldMouse. I'm still not sure if all the variations are correct, so any corrections are welcome.
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Author perroe2 Created 2007-11-14
Difficulty 2 dan (history) Source Game on DGS
AVG solve time 52 sec Stars 2.88  (8 votes)
User attempts 268 / 1287 Collections 3-4 (komoku) Joseki
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Created 2007-11-14
Source Game on DGS
Stars 2.88  (8 votes)
Collections 3-4 (komoku) Joseki
Your attempts N/A
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User Attempts
Name When Result Path
— 2023-11-01 10:53:11 Failed P3 O7 P8 O3
— 2023-10-01 09:19:41 Failed Q2 P3
— 2023-08-16 11:47:39 Failed S5
— 2023-08-09 10:35:54 Failed O3 P3
— 2023-06-16 15:18:02 Failed P2
— 2023-06-13 21:24:20 Got It P3 O7 O4 Q7 R7 P8 S6
— 2023-05-29 15:33:58 Got It P3 O7 O4 Q7 R7 P8 S6
— 2023-05-29 10:53:32 Failed Q2 P3
— 2023-05-28 15:33:26 Failed Q2 P3
— 2023-02-13 13:10:26 Failed R7
— 2023-02-05 20:32:55 Got It P3 O7 O4 Q7 R7 P8 S6
— 2023-02-03 03:59:56 Failed O7
— 2022-11-19 23:33:10 Got It P3 O7 O4 Q7 R7 P8 S6
— 2022-03-22 21:12:43 Failed O6 O7 P3 Q7 P8 S5
— 2021-10-26 14:04:58 Failed P3 O7 O3 Q7 R7 P8 S4 R8 S6 S7 S8
— 2021-03-25 21:59:08 Failed O6 O7 P3 Q7 P8 S5
:go 2021-02-19 18:49:28 Got It P3 O7 O4 Q7 R7 P8 S6
— 2020-12-27 14:46:41 Got It P3 O7 O4 Q7 R7 P8 S6
edegroot 2020-12-19 15:36:13 Failed O7
— 2020-07-19 17:51:19 Failed P3 O7 O4 Q7 P8
— 2020-07-02 07:39:47 Failed P3 O7 P8 O3
— 2020-06-26 09:11:42 Got It P3 O7 O4 Q7 R7 P8 S6
— 2020-06-26 08:54:40 Got It P3 O7 O3 Q7 R7 P8 S6
— 2020-06-05 20:13:07 Failed P3 O7 O3 Q7 R7 P8 S4 R8 S6 S7 S8
— 2020-06-05 10:24:57 Failed P3 O7 S4
— 2020-05-21 15:00:21 Failed P3 O7 O4 Q7 P8
— 2020-05-15 15:27:13 Failed O7
— 2020-05-12 19:53:41 Got It P3 O7 O4 Q7 R7 P8 S6
— 2020-05-02 14:31:55 Failed P3 O7 O4 Q7 P8
— 2020-04-28 14:16:23 Failed P3 O7 O6
— 2020-04-19 19:11:20 Got It P3 O7 O4 Q7 R7 P8 S6
— 2020-03-22 12:34:55 Failed O7
AnthofromWorld 2019-11-17 14:02:50 Failed O6 O7 O5 Q7 S6
— 2019-11-01 16:41:28 Got It P3 O7 O4 Q7 R7 P8 S6
— 2019-11-01 13:32:20 Failed P3 O7 P8 O3
— 2019-04-28 14:44:30 Got It P3 O7 O4 Q7 R7 P8 S6
ranka 2019-03-10 14:18:12 Got It P3 O7 O4 Q7 R7 P8 S6
ranka 2019-03-10 06:21:24 Got It P3 O7 O4 Q7 R7 P8 S6
ranka 2019-02-27 13:40:52 Got It P3 O7 O4 Q7 R7 P8 S6
ranka 2019-02-25 21:47:17 Got It P3 O7 O4 Q7 R7 P8 S6
briv 2019-02-05 20:04:29 Failed O6 O7 O5 Q7 P8
— 2018-09-02 16:48:38 Got It P3 O7 O3 Q7 R7 P8 S6
— 2018-09-01 03:43:54 Got It P3 O7 O3 Q7 R7 P8 S6
— 2018-08-27 18:58:38 Got It P3 O7 O3 Q7 R7 P8 S6
— 2018-08-26 12:17:00 Got It P3 O7 O3 Q7 R7 P8 S6
— 2018-08-25 10:15:17 Got It P3 O7 O3 Q7 R7 P8 S6
— 2018-08-25 08:58:47 Failed O6 O7 P3 Q7 R7 P8 S6 O3
— 2018-08-24 20:10:30 Failed O6 O7 P3 Q7 S6
— 2018-01-24 10:02:42 Failed P2
— 2018-01-24 09:56:33 Failed P2
— 2017-09-10 22:46:40 Failed R7
— 2017-09-10 06:40:44 Got It P3 O7 O3 Q7 R7 P8 S4 R8 S6 S7 Q8
— 2017-09-10 06:39:14 Got It P3 O7 O3 Q7 R7 P8 S4 R8 S6 S7 Q8
— 2017-09-10 06:36:52 Failed S5
BartTM 2017-03-10 21:52:14 Failed O6 O7 P3 Q7 O5
— 2016-02-27 04:01:20 Failed P2
— 2015-04-16 14:04:09 Failed O7
calabiyau 2015-03-30 20:46:47 Got It P3 O7 O4 Q7 R7 P8 S6
pento 2014-07-03 10:58:12 Failed S4
ranka 2014-05-05 16:20:04 Failed P3 O7 O4 Q7 R7 P8 Q8
— 2013-08-22 13:26:34 Failed P3 O7 O3 Q7 R7 P8 S6
— 2013-05-31 13:55:03 Failed P3 O7 R7
— 2013-05-31 13:30:41 Failed S6
— 2013-02-15 17:13:27 Failed O6 O7 P3 Q7 R7 P8 S6 O3
— 2012-12-20 10:44:04 Failed P3 O7 P8 O3
— 2012-10-18 18:05:05 Got It P3 O7 O4 Q7 R7 P8 S6
—´000 2012-03-18 18:19:01 Got It P3 O7 O3 Q7 R7 P8 S4 R8 S6 S7
—´000 2012-03-18 18:18:36 Failed P3 O7 O3 Q7 R7 P8 S4 R8
—´000 2012-03-18 18:18:15 Failed O6 O7 P3 Q7 R7 P8 S6 O3
— 2012-01-17 21:56:42 Failed O7
krt 2012-01-05 02:32:08 Got It P3 O7 O4 Q7 R7 P8
krt 2012-01-05 02:31:48 Failed O6 O7 P3 Q7 R7 P8 O4 S6
— 2011-09-03 22:02:28 Failed S4
— 2011-05-17 05:32:23 Failed O6 O7 O5 Q7 P8
— 2011-05-03 05:44:37 Got It P3 O7 O3 Q7 R7 P8
— 2011-05-03 05:26:53 Failed P3 O7 O4 Q7 R7 P8 R8 S6
— 2011-01-23 01:05:48 Failed P3 O7 O4 Q7 P8
— 2011-01-20 18:23:31 Got It P3 O7 O4 Q7 R7 P8
— 2011-01-20 18:22:08 Failed O7
— 2010-11-22 13:35:23 Failed P3 O7 O4 Q7 R7 P8 S4 S7 S6 R8 T5
— 2010-11-16 21:26:00 Got It P3 O7 O4 Q7 R7 P8
MrMoto 2010-10-03 08:19:29 Got It P3 O7 O4 Q7 R7 P8
MrMoto 2010-10-03 07:46:50 Failed P3 O7 O4 Q7 P8
Field Mouse 2010-09-27 15:41:10 Failed O7
— 2010-09-09 10:03:46 Failed Q2 P3
dam4227 2010-08-27 09:06:41 Failed O6 O7 O5 Q7 P8
— 2009-12-01 12:54:49 Got It P3 O7 O4 Q7 R7 P8
— 2009-11-26 21:58:33 Failed O6 O7 P3 Q7 R7 P8 O4 S6
— 2009-11-03 12:59:18 Failed O6 O7 P3 Q7 O5
— 2009-02-26 00:23:00 Failed O6 O7 P3 Q7 R7 P8 S6 O3
— 2009-02-25 06:36:18 Failed O6 O7 P8
— 2009-01-27 07:32:55 Got It P3 O7 O3 Q7 R7 P8
— 2009-01-27 07:16:12 Failed P3 O7 R7
— 2008-12-30 03:09:13 Failed O6 O7 O5 Q7 O8
— 2008-12-06 12:02:16 Got It P3 O7 O3 Q7 R7 P8
— 2008-12-06 12:01:14 Failed P3 O7 O2
alexandrk 2008-11-30 03:35:52 Got It P3 O7 O4 Q7 R7 P8
— 2008-10-21 09:20:45 Failed S6
— 2008-07-09 19:27:23 Failed P3 O7 O4 Q7 P8
wakaru 2008-05-30 14:53:58 Failed R7
— 2008-04-23 08:54:43 Got It P3 O7 O3 Q7 R7 P8
— 2008-04-21 19:28:42 Failed O7
MrMoto 2008-04-13 05:43:35 Failed O6 O7 O5 Q7 P8
— 2008-02-15 10:13:34 Failed P3 O7 O3 Q7 R7 P8 S5
BartTM 2008-01-20 13:37:31 Failed O6 O7 P3 Q7 O5
Athanatos 2008-01-10 13:26:37 Got It P3 O7 O3 Q7 R7 P8
— 2008-01-04 05:41:01 Failed N7
Athanatos 2007-11-30 10:53:31 Failed O7
Field Mouse 2007-11-28 13:53:36 Got It P3 O7 O4 Q7 R7 P8
Field Mouse 2007-11-28 13:52:55 Failed O6 O7 P3 Q7 R7 P8 O4 S6
— 2007-11-20 08:17:17 Got It P3 O7 O3 Q7 R7 P8
— 2007-11-19 05:18:24 Failed O6 O7 R7
Hagios 2007-11-19 04:28:30 Failed R7
— 2007-11-15 10:17:01 Got It P3 O7 O3 Q7 R7 P8
— 2007-11-15 07:25:39 Failed P3 O7 P8 O3
— 2007-11-15 02:38:12 Failed O6 O7 P3 Q7 R7 P8 O4
— 2007-11-14 03:59:13 Failed Q2
— 2007-11-14 02:42:14 Failed P3 O7 P8
Field Mouse 2007-11-14 01:46:26 Failed P3 O7 O3
Count Result Path
17 Got It P3 O7 O4 Q7 R7 P8 S6
10 Failed O7
7 Got It P3 O7 O3 Q7 R7 P8
7 Got It P3 O7 O4 Q7 R7 P8
6 Got It P3 O7 O3 Q7 R7 P8 S6
6 Failed P3 O7 O4 Q7 P8
5 Failed P3 O7 P8 O3
4 Failed O6 O7 O5 Q7 P8
4 Failed P2
4 Failed Q2 P3
4 Failed O6 O7 P3 Q7 R7 P8 S6 O3
4 Failed R7
3 Failed O6 O7 P3 Q7 O5
3 Failed O6 O7 P3 Q7 R7 P8 O4 S6
2 Got It P3 O7 O3 Q7 R7 P8 S4 R8 S6 S7 Q8
2 Failed S4
2 Failed O6 O7 P3 Q7 P8 S5
2 Failed S5
2 Failed P3 O7 O3 Q7 R7 P8 S4 R8 S6 S7 S8
2 Failed P3 O7 R7
2 Failed S6
1 Failed P3 O7 O6
1 Failed O6 O7 P3 Q7 S6
1 Failed P3 O7 S4
1 Failed O3 P3
1 Failed O6 O7 O5 Q7 S6
1 Failed P3 O7 O4 Q7 R7 P8 Q8
1 Failed P3 O7 O3 Q7 R7 P8 S6
1 Failed P3 O7 O3
1 Got It P3 O7 O3 Q7 R7 P8 S4 R8 S6 S7
1 Failed P3 O7 O3 Q7 R7 P8 S4 R8
1 Failed P3 O7 O4 Q7 R7 P8 R8 S6
1 Failed P3 O7 O4 Q7 R7 P8 S4 S7 S6 R8 T5
1 Failed O6 O7 P8
1 Failed O6 O7 O5 Q7 O8
1 Failed P3 O7 O2
1 Failed P3 O7 O3 Q7 R7 P8 S5
1 Failed N7
1 Failed O6 O7 R7
1 Failed O6 O7 P3 Q7 R7 P8 O4
1 Failed Q2
1 Failed P3 O7 P8