originated from looking at problem 3687, but turned into a terrible endgame problem. I'm trying to create a potition where W should start with B17, rather than starting a ko with A16.
Author kochi Created 2004-01-04
Difficulty 1 kyu (history) Source N/A
AVG solve time 109 sec Stars 3.17  (12 votes)
User attempts 201 / 617 Collections Counting Points, Whole Board Positions, Ko / Ko Threats
Genre endgame Your attempts N/A
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Created 2004-01-04
Source N/A
Stars 3.17  (12 votes)
Collections Counting Points, Whole Board Positions, Ko / Ko Threats
Your attempts N/A
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User Attempts
Name When Result Path
2024-01-31 21:31:46 Got It A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11 B13
2023-12-16 02:25:04 Failed A16 B14 A14 A15 B17
2023-12-04 09:39:03 Got It A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11 B13
2023-07-26 23:40:08 Got It A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11 B13
2023-07-26 23:38:25 Failed B14 B17
2023-07-13 12:28:31 Got It A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11 A17
2023-06-12 14:08:22 Got It A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11 A17
2023-06-05 03:04:55 Got It A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11 B13
2023-04-06 19:28:01 Failed B17 B14 B13 A15
2023-01-14 12:33:18 Got It A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11 B13
2023-01-04 10:31:07 Failed S6
:go 2021-12-03 04:59:17 Got It A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11 A17
2021-08-28 12:06:35 Failed B17 B14 A16 B13 A11
2021-03-01 18:20:54 Failed A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11 A12 A15
ranka 2021-01-24 10:17:21 Got It A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11 A17
2020-10-12 17:00:31 Got It A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11 B13
BartTM 2020-09-22 15:35:56 Failed B17 B14 A16 B13 A14
2020-08-27 13:06:42 Failed B14 B17
2020-01-06 09:04:45 Failed B17 B14 A16 B13 A13
2019-12-24 16:32:05 Got It A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11 B13
2019-09-14 21:56:32 Failed A17
2019-08-14 17:37:50 Got It A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11 B13
BartTM 2019-08-14 07:18:12 Failed B17 B14 B13 A15
2019-06-14 01:53:22 Failed A15
2018-11-09 21:30:23 Failed B17 B14 A16 B13 A13
2018-10-05 06:51:54 Failed B17 B14 B13 A15
2018-09-24 08:45:45 Failed B17 B14 A16 B13 A13
shamerrus 2018-04-22 07:33:41 Got It A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11 B13
2018-03-30 23:27:53 Got It A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11 B13
2018-03-02 05:35:16 Failed H6
2018-02-15 17:34:08 Got It A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11 A17
2018-02-01 15:24:42 Failed B17 B14 A16 B13 C12 A12
2018-02-01 15:24:14 Failed G6
2017-12-25 14:51:57 Got It A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11 B13
2017-12-25 14:50:52 Failed A16 B14 A14 A15 B15
2017-12-25 14:48:51 Failed B14 B17
2017-11-11 21:05:48 Got It A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11 A17
2017-11-01 21:51:27 Got It A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11 A17
2017-10-30 19:32:17 Failed B14 B17
2017-10-23 12:58:04 Got It A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11 B13
2017-06-08 12:29:23 Got It A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11 B13
2017-05-31 15:55:20 Failed B17 B14 A16 B13 A14
2016-11-13 17:39:08 Failed S6
2016-04-09 14:53:26 Failed B14 B17
2016-02-19 11:37:33 Failed B17 B14 B13 A15
2016-02-15 14:25:09 Failed A15
2016-01-08 09:32:11 Failed A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B13
2015-11-22 00:01:43 Failed B17 B14 A16 B13 A13
pento 2015-03-14 13:25:40 Failed B17 B14 B13 A15
2015-03-08 08:15:32 Got It A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11 A17
2015-03-07 20:39:35 Failed B17 B14 A15 B13 A13 C12 A14 C13
ranka 2015-01-10 05:42:38 Got It A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11 B13
2014-12-13 09:58:07 Failed B17 B14 A14 A15 A13
2014-10-27 08:22:40 Got It A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11
2014-09-06 03:49:52 Got It A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11 B13
2014-08-04 21:11:38 Got It A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11 B13
pento 2014-03-30 18:40:17 Failed B17 B14 B13 A15
kochi 2013-01-05 20:33:33 Got It A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11 B13
2013-01-05 15:09:10 Failed S6
WTD 2012-10-05 15:28:54 Got It A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11
WTD 2012-10-05 15:22:53 Failed B17 B14 B13 A15
2012-09-16 15:51:28 Got It A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11
cheukyin 2012-09-02 02:12:18 Failed A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11 A12 A15
2012-09-02 01:46:45 Got It A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11 A17
2012-08-31 08:54:07 Failed A15
2012-08-31 07:24:50 Failed A16 B14 A15
Athanatos 2012-08-04 15:58:17 Got It A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11
Piccolo 2012-08-04 07:37:09 Got It A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11
sputnikc 2012-08-03 03:16:43 Got It A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11
iPiou 2012-07-22 12:17:50 Failed S6
Satouros 2012-07-17 01:19:31 Got It A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11
2012-07-11 17:58:00 Got It A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11
2012-07-11 14:51:40 Got It A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11
2012-05-28 15:55:15 Failed A17
2012-02-19 10:55:12 Got It A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11
2012-02-19 10:48:20 Failed A16 B14
2012-02-02 03:52:39 Failed B17 B14 A16 B13 C12 A12
krt 2012-01-09 19:59:06 Got It A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11
krt 2012-01-09 19:58:44 Failed B17 B14 A16 B13 A14
—´000 2012-01-04 02:39:00 Got It A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11
Minirock 2011-11-25 01:16:49 Got It A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11
2011-10-17 09:13:11 Got It A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11
2011-10-03 10:19:54 Failed A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11
Spica 2011-09-05 11:31:25 Failed A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11
Ventile 2011-08-29 08:00:29 Failed A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11 A12 A15
Zander 2011-06-18 13:16:58 Failed B17 B14 A16 B13 A13
2011-05-31 11:32:04 Failed B17 B14 B13 A15
Vose 2011-05-18 03:49:06 Failed A14
Vose 2011-05-18 03:49:05 Failed A14
Piccolo 2011-04-25 04:42:41 Failed S6
2011-04-21 07:10:48 Failed A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 S6
2011-04-15 21:49:18 Got It A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11
2011-04-14 17:58:14 Got It A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11
2011-04-12 18:54:11 Got It A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11
2011-04-11 08:43:54 Failed B17 B14 A16 B13 C12 A12
2011-04-08 11:53:44 Got It A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11
2011-04-05 02:55:14 Failed A17
2010-12-24 10:18:28 Got It A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11
2010-12-24 10:14:27 Failed B17 B14 A16 B13 A13
2010-12-12 23:35:31 Got It A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11
2010-12-12 23:34:53 Failed B17 B14 A16 B13 C12 A12
2010-12-06 21:27:42 Failed B17 B14 A16 B13 A14
2010-12-06 21:25:05 Failed B17 B14 A16 B13 A13
MrMoto 2010-11-18 05:06:13 Got It A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11
MrMoto 2010-11-18 05:05:36 Failed A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11 A12 A15
2010-11-12 06:40:07 Got It A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11
2010-11-08 07:23:22 Got It A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11
2010-11-07 16:18:30 Failed B17 B14 A16 B13 A11
2010-08-04 16:02:51 Failed B17 B14 A16 B13 A14
2010-07-10 19:39:07 Got It A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11
2010-06-13 12:56:07 Got It A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11
2010-06-13 12:50:48 Failed A16 B14 B13
frostburn 2010-06-11 06:50:56 Got It A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11
2010-03-18 10:32:04 Failed B17 B14 A16 B13 C12 A12
2010-02-10 23:19:53 Got It A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11
2010-01-11 16:44:28 Failed A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11
Bleedo 2010-01-07 19:55:33 Got It A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11
Bleedo 2010-01-07 19:54:58 Failed B17 B14 A16 B13 A11
2009-12-07 05:59:03 Got It A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11
whendrik 2009-11-14 00:58:54 Got It A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11
whendrik 2009-11-14 00:56:43 Failed A16 B14
whendrik 2009-11-12 13:01:16 Failed B17 B14 A16 B13 C12 A12
2009-10-18 23:03:45 Got It A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11
2009-10-08 10:04:46 Got It A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11
2009-07-03 03:52:59 Got It A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11
2009-05-26 18:40:08 Got It A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11
2009-05-26 13:01:07 Failed B17 B14 A14 A15 A18 B19
2009-05-23 06:27:34 Got It A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11
dischord 2009-04-20 21:21:29 Got It A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11
gam3 2009-03-20 18:48:36 Failed A16 B14 A14 A15 A13 A17
gam3 2009-03-20 18:46:48 Failed A16 B14 A14 A15 B13
gam3 2009-03-20 18:44:59 Failed A11
2009-03-13 14:06:07 Failed A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11 A12 A15
Field Mouse 2009-03-04 13:54:51 Got It A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11
Field Mouse 2009-03-04 13:53:40 Failed B17 B14 A16 B13 A11
BartTM 2009-03-03 10:56:46 Failed B17 B14 A16 B13 A11
alexandrk 2009-03-02 12:38:37 Got It A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11
2009-03-02 05:58:39 Got It A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11
2009-02-28 11:06:06 Failed A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 A17 A15 S6 T6 B15 B18
kochi 2009-02-27 21:34:01 Failed A16 B14
kochi 2009-02-27 21:32:07 Failed A16 B14 A14 A15 A13
kochi 2009-02-27 20:55:41 Failed A14
LCZLAPINSKI 2005-04-14 15:13:54 Got It A16 B14 B17
Hans 2004-01-08 03:36:26 Failed B17 B14 A16 B13 A14 C12 A13 C13
2004-01-07 06:49:23 Failed A16 B14 A14 A15 N6 M6 B15 B17 B18 A15 H6 B15 G6 B13 A11
Spirit 2004-01-06 08:26:28 Failed A16 B14 A14 A15 H6
2004-01-05 07:26:59 Got It B17 B14 A16 B13 A14 C12 A13 C13
2004-01-05 02:48:59 Failed A16 B14 A14 A15 M6
2004-01-05 02:41:48 Got It B17 B14 A16 B13 A14 C12 A13 C13
kochi 2004-01-04 21:30:26 Got It B17 B14 A16 B13 A13 C12 A14
kochi 2004-01-04 20:50:50 Failed A16 B14 A14 A15 T14 T15 B15 T6
kochi 2004-01-04 20:36:54 Failed A16 B14 A14 A15 A17
Count Result Path
39 Got It A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11
17 Got It A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11 B13
9 Got It A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11 A17
8 Failed B17 B14 B13 A15
7 Failed B17 B14 A16 B13 A13
6 Failed B17 B14 A16 B13 C12 A12
5 Failed B17 B14 A16 B13 A14
5 Failed S6
5 Failed B14 B17
5 Failed A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11 A12 A15
5 Failed B17 B14 A16 B13 A11
3 Failed A17
3 Failed A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B18 A15 S6 T6 B15 A11
3 Failed A15
3 Failed A16 B14
3 Failed A14
2 Got It B17 B14 A16 B13 A14 C12 A13 C13
1 Failed B17 B14 A14 A15 A13
1 Failed B17 B14 A15 B13 A13 C12 A14 C13
1 Failed A16 B14 A15
1 Failed A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 B13
1 Failed A16 B14 A14 A15 B15
1 Failed G6
1 Failed H6
1 Failed A16 B14 A14 A15 A17
1 Failed A16 B14 A14 A15 B17
1 Failed A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 S6
1 Failed A16 B14 B13
1 Failed B17 B14 A14 A15 A18 B19
1 Failed A16 B14 A14 A15 A13 A17
1 Failed A16 B14 A14 A15 B13
1 Failed A11
1 Failed A16 B14 A14 A15 H6 G6 B15 B17 A17 A15 S6 T6 B15 B18
1 Failed A16 B14 A14 A15 A13
1 Got It A16 B14 B17
1 Failed B17 B14 A16 B13 A14 C12 A13 C13
1 Failed A16 B14 A14 A15 N6 M6 B15 B17 B18 A15 H6 B15 G6 B13 A11
1 Failed A16 B14 A14 A15 H6
1 Failed A16 B14 A14 A15 M6
1 Got It B17 B14 A16 B13 A13 C12 A14
1 Failed A16 B14 A14 A15 T14 T15 B15 T6